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5/17/2004
17:00:37

Subject: RE: Motor oil
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I have to cast a vote for Castrol. I have a 1988 Dakota with a 3.9 and it has had nothing but Castrol GTX 10w30 since day one. I have 184,000 miles on it and the motor has never given me a problem.



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5/17/2004
20:53:12

RE: Motor oil
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An earlier post stated :

Consumers Reports ran a test several years ago, using about a
dozen New York City cabs.
They tested synthetics and several of the popular additives along
with most of the off the shelf oils for 100,000 miles.
They tore the engines down at the end of the test and measured
various parts for wear and came to the conclusion that any good
brand name oil was as good as any synthetic and that the
additives were worthless.


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Other "more reputable" magazines have done similar tests and
have given good quality synthetics much higher praise.

Remember ...... Consumer reports "ALWAYS" rates FORD Trucks
very highly so we all know they are smokin crack.





Greg
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5/17/2004
22:51:23

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You know Dr. D has made a very well made and interresting point... That made me think of only one thing... CAR AND DRIVER TV and MAGAZINE... Allthough Ford did get it this last year, I think they may have deserved it for the 150 too, but who has won it for all of the past years??? Chevy, how about that... And who funds car and driver the most... Chevy how about that one... Makes you think doesn't it??? I especially like it when you start looking at the grades they gave the vehicles, like one year they graded Toyota the best in everything, and Chevy was the truck awarded the best even after Toyota had beaten them in everything... I don't know how many years ago that was... 2 or 3, but if you have the magazine still take a look and you'll know what I'm talking about...



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5/18/2004
09:20:06

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Consumers report quit too soon most any modern motor oil will do well in a new motor for 100,000 miles they should have run them 200,000 or 300,000 and the value of synthetics would have been more apparent.



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5/19/2004
07:08:29

Amsoil and the NYC Taxi Motor Oil Test - Amzoil
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Oil, that's exactly what I stated earlier:

NYC Taxi Cabs may be driven under fairly harsh conditions, but the worst conditions of all is a vehicle driven only a few miles to and from work, often in cold weather, with the engine not warmed up. Cold starts are one of the major causes of engine wear. The CR test almost eliminated cold starts --- they kept those taxis in service constantly. So, they eliminated the major cause of wear.

A real world test would be more informative. You would need to test a fleet of different vehicles (cars, trucks, vans, SUVs) under different driving conditions. Taxi's are built to the same specifications as Police cars and Taxi's are purpose built = larger radiators, engine oil coolers, and transmission coolers that give them inherent advantages. A better test would have been to use cars regularly available to the public withouth these enhancements.

Maybe if you trade your Dakota at 60k miles of service you wouldn't care much. Problem is the truck would sure run better and use less fuel in that 60K interval if using a better quality oil and filter, and how were those same taxi's holding up after 100k, 200k, or 300k miles?




Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com

AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products



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