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92Dakota
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8/19/2003
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Hi...
I have added a V8 throttle body, 160 dg thermometer, relocated IAT, tuned TPS, and a KN Filter.
I need more ideas for cheap performance tricks. It runs awesome when it cools down a little, but it is so slow in 100 degree weather. Do I need to get a resistor and hook it to the IAT to trick it? I'd probably use a potentiometer so I could adjust it. What size should I be looking for (ohms). Please do not answer unless you are confident and know your stuff. I can't afford to screw up my truck.
What else...
Underdrive pulleys?
Electric Fan?
Custom intake?
Also...I hate the sound of the Magnaflow muffler thats on it now. Sounds like a jap car after 1800 RPM. My friend has a flowmaster on his V6 Ford and it sounds a hell of a lot better. Not like a V8, but nice. So...40 series or 50 series. I'd rather sacrifice loudness than have to put up with a ricey sound.
Thanks a lot!!!
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92Dakota
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8/19/2003
20:06:08
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The 40 series mufflers are going for cheap on Ebay.
Should I go with one of them? I can't find a 50 series anywhere near the price. I need 3" inlet and dual 2.5" outlets.
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jeremy
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8/19/2003
20:10:11
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hey, i'm trying to decided between the 40 and 50 also. I've been told that the 50 isn't as loud so i think that's what i'm after. I found a deltaflow 50 series for 80 bucks. How much did you see the 40 for?
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ben
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8/19/2003
20:13:47
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you should look into the 5.0 injectors..i got mine for 50 bucks at a junk yard off of a mustang and they knocked about .300's of my et's in the 8th of a mile..there easy to put in to..
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92Dakota
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8/19/2003
20:18:49
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Cool...I'll look around.
I found the 40 series for 39.99 on Ebay brand new. Only $10.00 shipping. He has good feedback too.
I may have to try it out.
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92Dakota
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8/19/2003
20:24:08
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Am I looking for the 19lb injectors?
If I get some off an older car, can I clean them easily?
Where would the oxygen sensor on my truck be located?
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Osyrus
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8/19/2003
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How do you like that V8 Throttle Body on ur truck?
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kenny
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8/19/2003
21:18:32
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i aint got a throttle body any suggestion on gettin more power?
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92Dakota
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8/19/2003
21:29:06
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Throttle Body made the biggest difference.
Intake was a far second. But...they kind of work good together.
Someone let me know about the resistor value I should use and where the Oxygen sensor is.
Think I could get more performance if the O2 sensor is clogged?
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jeremy
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8/19/2003
23:54:55
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dang, for 50 bucks i'll let you get it and tell me what you think haha. That's really cheap, all the places i was looking had them for 90 plus shipping.
What kind of intake are you running?
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92Dak
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8/20/2003
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Stock Intake with a KN filter sitting where the stock one was.
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ben
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8/20/2003
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originally posted by 92 dak
"Am I looking for the 19lb injectors?
If I get some off an older car, can I clean them easily?
Where would the oxygen sensor on my truck be located?
Thanks/"
yeah you can just clean the off thats what i did.i dont know where the o2 sensor is cause i didnt even mess with that,i just took the belt off/took the air hat off/took out all the bots holing the fuell rail in/replaced the injectors and did it back up the way i took it off..::IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEBER TO UN HOOK YOUR NEGATIVE WIRE ON THE BATTERY WHILE INSTALING THE INJECTORS AND LEAVE THE KEY IN THE IGNITION TURNED TOWARDS THE ON POSTION..::this way your computer will reset its self..they work pretty good..its a pretty cheap but effective power mod..
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pbxr
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8/20/2003
06:57:12
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cold air intake, remove front rubber flap if you have one, this is in the front of engine compartment close to where your air filter is. Dynomax has a good muffler as well. I got mine brand new from Summit for around 40 bucks or so.
O@ Sensors are located in you exhaust, close to your Y pipe (nearest to the engine). Looks like a plug with wires coming out of it. I just bought a Superchips tuner from another sites group buy. I will post results(butt dyno) when I install it.
'01 Sport Auto 3.9, CC, 3923s, Intense Cold Intake, Dynomax SuperTurbo 17748, Wal-Mart special roll on bedliner, MOOG upper and lower ball joints, V8 TB, clear corners, gutt guard, tinted,blah blah...
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Osyrus
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8/20/2003
14:36:15
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Yeh I again from what little I know, you should definitely get a COLD AIR INTAKE and not just the filter! That was the very first mod I did and like pbxr said: I cut out the rubber flap. You could tell the difference right away! You with that new throttle body you need the extra air you should be able to see an improvment immediately!
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Osyrus
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8/20/2003
14:41:37
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Oh....I have a set of Crank and Alt pulleys in that I'll be putting on tomorrow or this weekend. I'll let you know what I think when I'm done.
Another cheap thing would be to do new cap, rotor, plugs and performance wires. If your truck is in need of that it should definitely help to wake it up!
A similar thread like this was started; take a look here - http://www.dodgetrucks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=32473
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rtdkota
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8/20/2003
17:36:08
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1.7 Roller rockers will make a big difference too.
If 4-5 of you want them, I'll work a group buy if interested.
Sam
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LI Blackdakk
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8/20/2003
22:08:30
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1.7 civic engine drop...then at least ull be slow with good mileage
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pbxr
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8/21/2003
18:05:49
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Hey Sam, so what are you thinking price wise? I noticed that a group buy at Dodge Truck World, was VERY successful. Almost 200 buyers, I myself included, on a Superchips tuner. Perhaps, if a GB is not positive here you can start there? Either way I would be interested.
'01 Sport Auto 3.9, CC, 3923s, Intense Cold Intake, Dynomax SuperTurbo 17748, Wal-Mart special roll on bedliner, MOOG upper and lower ball joints, V8 TB, clear corners, gutt guard, tinted,blah blah...
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Mario
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8/21/2003
18:16:06
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I might be interested in a GB for 1.7 rockers too.
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8DAK9
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8/21/2003
23:41:25
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anybody have a gen I dakota? I need some throttle body recomendations alond with msd info. after market mods are hard to find, bu i know there are ways to add power. the only things i have done are: high flow cat, magna flow cat back, which by the way, the sound sucks, k&n filter and a mopar performance cam. the cam brought the duration from .373 to .405, so not a big diff. if anyone can, help a brotha out.
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Joe E.
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8/22/2003
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Id also like info on a v8 TB. Could I get one off a 1989-1990 Ram V8? should bolt right up correct? Thanks
Joe E.
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DakTimSXT
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8/22/2003
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Hi.
Just got my 03' Dakota SXT. I hear alot of tweaking the TB with a V8 TB, i will surly try that one. I got a 50 serious single-deul out FM. Sounds lovely and adds a good jump on QM. Low end still needs work but i am working on it. Getting the K&N full intake(a must for low end i think). On to my question, Does anyone know where i can get a Performance chip, if there is one, cause i haven't herd otherwise. Then i will see performance and move to injectors. But right now i Wanna hear about the chips. So if you can help me i would be much appreciative. And will report results. Will have pics up soon, people say i got a nice paint job, but thats not performance.
thanx,
DakTimSXT
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reTro
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8/23/2003
05:49:10
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I'd be interested in a GB on the 1.7 rockers too!!!
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Goodyear
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8/23/2003
15:05:31
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Group buy--if it gets put together you can count me in.
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rtdkota
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8/23/2003
15:15:11
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Group buy---
Well, since I virtually the lowest price on Crower roller rockers-- going much below is going to be tough. I'll be able to do it, but it's not going to be a crazy discount.
What flavors are people wanting (I am talking to the V6 guys here)-- standard kit, or rev kit?
Sam
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rtdkota
R/T
8/23/2003
15:31:28
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OK-- Here's what I can do-- Someone will need to be the point man for this-- they take all of the info, payments, kit type, etc.
Then send it to me. Then I will fill the orders. Fair enough?
5 or more orders from Now until Oct 1st. Magnum V6 kits only--
1.6 or 1.7 ratio rockers, standard kit = $305 shipped
1.6 or 1.7 ratio rockers, rev kit = $420 shipped.
Best I can do guys.
Sam
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Goodyear
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8/23/2003
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I'd say that's a very nice discount. No complaints here. I'll definitely buy a 1.7 standard kit.
--Ryan
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pbxr
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8/23/2003
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Sam, excuse my ignorance, can you explain the difference between the standard and rev kits.
Also is there is huge differance in performance between the two? Thanks as always for the info. Oh and one more thing, can we use our stock valve covers, or do we have to upgrade them as well?
'01 Sport Auto 3.9, CC, 3923s, Intense Cold Intake, Dynomax SuperTurbo 17748, Wal-Mart special roll on bedliner, MOOG upper and lower ball joints, V8 TB, clear corners, gutt guard, tinted,blah blah...
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reTro
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8/24/2003
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I want a 1.7 standard kit here!!! Thanx for the discount.
reTro
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rtdkota
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8/24/2003
02:13:44
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The standard kit includes ARP studs, washers and rockers (12) railtype (to keep roller tip on valve). Good to 5500 rpm...
The rev kit includes ARP studs, guideplates and rockers (12) non-railtype (no washers on the roller tips-- as these come with guideplates). For applications over 5500 rpm... (if going beyond 5500-- upwards of 5700 rpm and beyond, it is recommended you upgrade the wimpy stock valve springs to either the RT springs, or Crower double spring (.600 lift capable).
For either kit you will need: A) Modify your stock valve covers to clear the Crower rockers (knock in the oil baffles, or B) Purchase modified covers powdercoated in your choice of colors, and send me your cores--- or C) I'll sell you modified covers outright for cost + coating + shipping.
If someone wants to be the 'leader' of this and gather all the info, that's cool with me. Go ahead and post it elsewhere if you think there's enough people out there that want in on this.
I can be reached at 619-274-1292 if you have any questions.
I have been selling Crower products for about 4 years (and I have been using them just as long-- 75k on this truck I have now!).
Sam
www.socaldakota.com
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