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60musclecars
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
17:19:10
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Unless you have an R/T or and off-roader, then this doesnt apply to you. WHy are you all putting money into these dakotas? Get a SPORTS CAR. Seriously, who wants to see a dakota racing? I recommend putting all this money into a shelby or trans am.
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chuck
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
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I reccommend putting your lips on my a$$hole and kissing it, bud. Us Dakota owners want to see us race our Dakotas. That's who wants to see us race a Dakota.
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Dakaty
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
17:34:37
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Well said chuck (and funny too).
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
17:38:11
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Hey, are you the guy in the TA that I smoked last weekend? I don't blame you for not wanting to see a dakota racing... That tailgate is kind of demoralizing isn't it?
I've had 'Vettes, TAs and Camaros in the past. I'm enjoing the heck out of playing with my Dakota. Besides, I like having a 12 second truck that can still tow a trailer full of toys to the sand dunes. My TAs and Z28s didn't tow for crap!
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Dave
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
17:49:52
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Dear 60's,Any idiot with a credit card and a phone can make a sportscar fast.There are millions of go-fast parts made for camaros and TA's,but relativly few made for Dakotas. We all are doing this because we enjoy the challenge of taking a 4,500# vehicle with the aerodynamics of a billboard and making it capable of smoking Camaros and TA's
Dave.
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Rascal
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
17:57:57
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And while you're at it 60s, buy one of those cute little cars for your other foot.
Chuck, that was freakin' awesome!
Rascal
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mike
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
18:18:43
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ok get your sport car then when a dakota smokes you you will realize who wasted money. who doesnt have a dam little rice burner
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Dodgeman
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
18:31:54
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If I bought a REAL sports car it would be something like a Ferrari 550 or an Aston Martin DB7 V. Seeing as how I can't afford one, I'll have fun making my truck run better...
DM
Camaro's, Rustangs, & TA's are not REAL sports cars. Just ask any Italian or German....and yes even the Brits.
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
18:41:43
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All money that's spent on anything other than food or shelter is wasted. Why would wasting it on a "sports car" be any different than wasting it on a dakota?
I think this 60s musclecar guy is just pulling our chain. My guess is that he drives a dakota.... and has spent more money than we have to make it go fast! hehehe
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
18:48:11
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Why?
Let's breakit down for the 60's boy.
A 3800 lbs pick up for $15900 + $100 mods= 0-60 @6.23sec & 1/4 mi in 14.78 sec @96.4
even you can appreciate the beauty in that!
Q
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Lesley
GenIII
11/01/2001
18:59:30
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Chuck, that was totally tasteless & utterly hilarious.
97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black.
Quick D Intake.
Awaiting Installation: JBA headers, V8 R/T TB,
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
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justin
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
19:46:32
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well it is kinda true, you have put ALOT of money into these dakotas to make them fast. (11,12,13sec quarter miles) sc and nitrous, its expensive. you can get a new camaro SS that runs 13's almost stock. you can get an old chevelle that runs 11's stock. or you could get a buick grand national or buick regal t-type that runs 11's with only minor mods. like dave said there isnt many mods for dakotas. but ive seen sc and nitrous dakotas that only run 13's, what more can they make for us?. what the hell, when are we gonna be runnin 8's and 9's, ford lighnings run 13's easily, and 454ss's run 13's easily. IM TIRED OF SPENDING MY HARD EARNED MONEY ON MODS FOR MY DAKOTA KNOWING THAT ITS NEVER GONNA RUN BETTER THAN A 13! WHAT THE HELL WHY DONT THESE COMPANIES HELP US OUT AND GIVE US SOME QUALITY MODS THAT GIVE US ACTUALL POWER TO TAKE TO THE TRACK OR THE STREET!
take the ford lighning and the R/T. lighning comes sc. lets say you sc the R/T. ford is still gonna be faster. lets say you got a sc R/T and a lighning. you put a exaust and an itake on both, the lighning is still gonna be faster. so now you got the lighning sc, exaust, intake and you got your R/T sc, exaust, and intake, next you put a throttle body on the R/T only and a 100 shot of nitrous on the R/T only. drive the fukkin things to the track and the R/T will barely keep up. WTF i love dakotas but when the hell are we ever gonna dominate the track?
i in no way intended to piss of dakota drivers im just stating the truth and im pretty pissed off about it
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
20:33:14
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Justin.... Relax, take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard. I understand your frustration, but you have some of the facts turned around a bit. It's a matter of the right plan, parts and execution ($$$$$) hehehe. If you are just looking for a quick timeslip, then ANY truck is the wrong way to go about it. You can in fact make an R/T go as fast or faster than a Lightning if you put the right SC or mods on it. Just because a part is labeled as a supercharger doesn't mean that it's gonna make it that fast. Some parts/systems definately work better than others. I think the frustration is in picking the correct parts. Spending money doesn't necessarily make them go faster. A long list of mods doesn't either. You have to have the correct mods to make it happen.
As far as dominating at the track? That will NEVER happen. NOTHING dominates at the track. If you had a Lightning... the Camaros, TAs, Mustangs and every other kind of vehicle (including some Dakotas) will still go faster. THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEBODY FASTER. It's always been that way and it always will be. If you like your truck.... enjoy it for what it is. I mod my truck for the enjoyment of it. It's more of a soothing hobby for me. How fast it ends up doesn't really mean that much to me. I just enjoy the challenge of making it more efficient and quicker despite the lack of "packaged" mods.
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justin
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
21:12:30
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sorry about that, but it just makes me mad
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CW
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
21:19:42
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I have driven old muscle cars I will take the dakota in a second.
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justin
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
21:27:04
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muscle cars are pretty damn fast though, my buddies dad has a 396 chevele and he can be goin 40 down the road punch the gas and lay a huge smokey patch. id rather have both
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CW
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
21:42:33
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Both would be good but finances say the dak.
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jay
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
21:42:49
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ok..... first off.... the reason a musclecar is called a musclecar is because that's all it's good for is pure muscle <<<< a.k.a. tire fryer.
second: 60's go back to listening to bob dylan and beating the bishop ..... oh yeah almost forgot.... go suck a fat d*ck, are you jealous cause your poor and have to sell your a*s to pay for your crack habit and can't afford a dakota.
third: don't expect musclecar performance from your truck because this is why it's called a truck not a musclecar... and if you beat on your classic car you should be shot because a musclecar is priceless and many that are in factory condition are worth ALOT of money, you'd be stupid to beat on it especially if it has the factory engine.....
jay
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
21:58:10
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Hey jus' realized I could get two daks for the price of one lightning.
Right on DUNER! The great thing about the truck is that it isn't a sports car. If I would have gotten a camero or trans Am I'd need a shoe horn to get my a$$ into it and a colo-rectal surgeon to get the divorce papers out of my anus!
I'm a resident the dak was the best truck I could get for the money-it's outstanding performance was just gravy.
In college I loved my VW Bus. Slow as $hit but it turned more heads and I got more thumbs up than I ever did in my truck. Plus you can sleep in it!
This board is about learning about and loving your truck!....if we pi$$ off a few silverado/maxima/ricer/rustang drivers in the process good for us!
E.R's on gotta go!
Q
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justin
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
22:03:40
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yeah, i got a kick ass dakota and a job what the hell else besides mods do i need?
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Teamfast
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
22:20:42
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I love musclecars. Plain and simple. I like the
sound. the style and the performance.
Unfortunately i dont have the time or money to
restore one. .. yet. For now I am content
driving a muscle truck. If I close my eyes I can
just imagine being in that Judge.
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Marks DQC
GenIII
11/01/2001
22:30:47
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If I earn money and want to waste it (your opinion), that's my choice. Everyone here who had modded their truck and stepped on the pedal has had a smile on their face. Money is not wasted when it makes you smile. I'm fortunate that hard work has allowed me to have both the QC as a daily driver and a Camaro SS. (Faster than you think Justin. Mine ran 13.2 stock, 12.9 with less than $500 in mods.)
Someday I may build the Dak into a screamer, but for now I can't. Those that are blazing the way now should be commended for their passion. It's a great looking fun truck that puts a smile on my face too. So I am not wasting my money, are you 60's? Cuz you sure didn't have a smile. :)
My Toys
2001 Dakota Quad Cab SLT , 4.7L, Auto, 3.55 LSD, Garnet Red over Slate, Zaino, Tint, Vent Guard, Gaylords Lid, Hotchkis Springs, Bilstein Shocks, Wet Okole Covers
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Hersbird
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
22:35:49
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The new camaro SS thing doesn't hold water compared value wise to a Dakota. If you dumped the price difference between a new stripped out RC, 4.7 5-speed, 3.92/LS Dakota and new SS the Dakota will beat the SS in a straight line. There was never a showroom stock chevelle that could touch 11's let alone 12's. And the ones that come close would actually cost you more then a new Dakota, and be no where near as smooth running, stopping, turning, not to mention the utility the truck gives you. Trucks are the musclecars of the 2000's, not even the soon to be discontinued Camaros and Firebirds really fit the bill. They can only be ordered a few specific ways, the mustang is a little better for individuality but there are so many out there. Trucks have so many options and none fits the musclecar thing as well as a dakota (big engine, small package). The Lightning w/o the supercharger is nother, they already tried that and a R/T will smoke a older non-supercharged L. If Dodge put together a quality supercharger and intercooler (with the rest of the motor built specifically for it) like the L has, the Dakota would smoke it with it's light weight and bigger motor. If you want a true bang for the buck, all around sports car the new Subie WRX can't be beat, they are $22-27,000 and have a bunch of parts out already. The pretty much stock ones are already starting to dominate the SCCA club here, thier times with only autocross tires are better then some pretty seriously modified veteran autocross cars (like vetts, 240and 280z's, mustangs, neons ACRs, etc.). My brother has one and it also is great for the Montana winters and hauling 3 kids to school, something my Dakota sucks at (at least I can put an elk in my Dakota!)
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TEAMFAST
Dodge Dakota
11/01/2001
23:28:15
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Why were the muscle cars of the late 60s and
early 70s so popular? First, they went like hell.
and second, they were affordable. The sports
cars of today are not affordable and they
usually get spanked when we race anyways
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Jon
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
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I love it when these lesser intelligent, dare I say stupid people come to this webpage. I bought my Dak b/c of everything but the performance, yes it had a V8 and a 5spd but after I owned it did I find out about it's potential. Look at Duner and Big Bird. Show me a car that can do that stock and costs less then $20,000 and can haul a four wheeler or dirt bike. Right now Duner can beat a new 996 Porsche, given the quality isnt there or everything that goes along with owning a Porsche. But in the end we Dakota owners have a little more thickness in our wallets, and we are happy driving what we do. Besides a Camaro or Mustang, unless it is vintage why buy one? Every body has one, and they wear out very quickly. No offense, Id rather own a Dak than a Camaro/Mustang. I like my Dak and thats all she wrote.
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kota on 20s
GenIII
11/02/2001
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"dunner can beat a new 996 porsche" MABY IN A STRAIGHT LINE! through in a few curves and we will see who crosses the finish line first. i dont know about you guys, but i like the ability to go fast not only in a straight line, but i also like good cornering ability (which the prosche has in spades).
I started adding go-fast parts to my truck just to get a little more power out of it. never intending it to be anything spectacular IT IS AFTERALL A TRUCK.
thoes who have a goal to make a truck into a 11-12sec street terror either have too much money or too much time on their hands
I just got back from testdriving a subaru WRX...WOW!!! and all for 22k!
Eric
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Nirami
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
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Just curious, but has anyone thought about looking into the Stratus R/T coupe with that 3L V6? Seems to me that it would have some major potential in it..but maybe I am wrong...Who knows...
- Mikel
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Dakota 2 Time
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
03:19:21
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I think the Dalota is about as close to a 60's muscle car as you can get. My favorite car was my 69 Dodge Superbee. Let's compare my Bee to my 01 Dakota.
Superbee Dakota
Weight 4000 4100
Rear End 3:91 Sure Grip 3:92 LSD
Sway Bar Front Only Front Only
Power 335 BHP 235 HP
Layout Ft Engine/Rear drive Ft engine/rear drive
Weight distribution about 70% Ft About 75% Ft
Remember, HP was rated brake HP back then so the 335 is probably closer to 235
My Dakota and Superbee are very c;ose in spec. Also, I can modify the Dakota in the same ways as I used to do the Superbee. With today's cars, even changing tire size is a nightmare.
97 CC SLT 5.2 Auto 3.55 Brilliant Blue/Silver
01 CC SLT 4.7 Auto 3.92 LSD Flame Red/Silver
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Lattimer
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
09:00:46
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Nirami,
I looked at the Stratus RT for the little woman. Nice car, runs real strong, and they corner well for a FWD car. I think they have loads of potential. Pretty fun to drive, even stock. Fact is, under the skin, its a Mitsu Eclipse GT. Loads of performance parts out there. I had the salesman talked down to 20K even, but she decided she didn't want a car with leather. Go figure. So we wound up with a 2002 Mitsu Galant.
But I still like my Dakota better!!!!
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intensedak01
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
11:49:14
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Ok being a dakota owner i hafta put my 2 cents in...first of all i do own a 2001 Trans Am WS6 and would own it over any new dakota anyday. Why you ask? There are many reasons, value, performance, style, prestige, and last but not least chicks dig them :-).
I know the new camaro's and T/A's cost around 30k new (i paid 29k), but my new dakota also cost around 26k new. I would pay 3k more for almost 100 more horsepower and loads of more torque. (2002 t/a ram air-325hp/around 350 ft-lb torque) In order to get my dakota with a 4.7L to have that much power i would have to spend over 3 grand. An STOCK R/T doesnt even compare to a T/A..look at the numbers and do the research, you will see. (2001 T/A 0-60mph in 5.4 sec)
Another thing, why do alot of people love straight line racing so much. That is the most boring type of racing there is. Going around a tight curve at a high rate of speed and sticking to the road is my idea of fun, yeah goin 130 down a straight away is fun too but id rather race through curves.
A camaro or t/a holds a higher value than the dakota. 10 years down the road most of you would sell your dak's for under 10k. A camaro or t/a would be worth twice as much. Pay a lil more now, and get more out of it down the road. Plus dakotas arent considered "collectors cars"
I love the looks of my dakota but i really love the looks of the ram air scoops on the new camaros, t/a's. They are much more "intimidating" than the dakota. I also like the stances of the cars much better.
How many girls out there would turn down an SS or T/A to ride in a dakota? Not many.
I do love my dakota very much and i dont mean to diss any dakota owners. I dont think we should even be comparing a dakota to a camaro or a trans am. They are totally different in almost every aspect an shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence.well thats my 2 cents, i could go on but thats long enough..comments are welcome :-)
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alex
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
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I only paid $21,000 to drive off the lot in my Dakota. Give me $9,000 more (the equivalent to your $30,000 WS-6) and I'll stay with you thru the curves and whoop your ass on the 1/4 mi. Might even hang with you top-end. And when the racin's over, I'll still be able to haul more kegs of beer than your T/A. Thus a bigger party at my house than yours. Now where's all the chicks, eh? Not to flame, just love my truck.
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Lesley
GenIII
11/02/2001
12:11:55
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I can't speak for all "chicks" but I'll take my Dakota, most of my girlfriends think it's pretty cool too. To each his/her own.
97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black.
Quick D Intake.
Awaiting Installation: JBA headers, V8 R/T TB,
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robert
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
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alex,
It is comments like yours that are causing Dakota fans to defend the muscle-car fans. We all love our Dakotas... but don't forget what they are. You will never be able to make your Dakota handle like a Trans-Am/Camaro. You are a fool.
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Dr.Q
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
12:28:58
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OK, back in the eighties I had a Fiero GT-quick, fun good looking-and a total piece of crap! It did absolutly nothing for getting girls! Six years later I'm broke have a VW Bus and I become a rolie polie hippie love god! Mabe it just took six years for my natural musk to ripen! HAHA!
Anyways who realy pulls "chicks" with their cars anyways! "Lets go down to the Arnold's, and see Potsie and Ralph Malph!"
Q
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Duner
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
12:29:15
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I have always loved F-Body cars.... always will. They are tough to beat for performance, style and fun driving. You're right.... they shouldn't be compared to a truck. I just need a truck. I can also appreciate the fact that with my truck I can haul and tow all the things I need to.... that I had trouble doing with any of my Zs or TAs. It's really apples to oranges. I kind of doubt the camaros and TAs will be much of a collector car in the future.... nothing that's made out of that much plastic ever will be. (just my opinion - I could be wrong) As far as re-sale value in the future? What's a nice collector version of a 83 camaro worth lately? hehehe (I'm sorry - that was a low blow)
All I really know, is that when a big old pickup truck outruns a TA going down the freeway.... the look on the TA driver's face is priceless!
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alex
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
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Robert
It's comments like yours that prove you to be a wuss. I think that with $4500 worth of drivetrain mods and $4500 worth of suspension mods (that totals $9000 as previously mentioned) I could absolutely make my truck handle like a WS-6 or an SS Camaro. Never is a long time. You're a fool, too.
Sitll not to flame, I just love my truck.
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Lesley
GenIII
11/02/2001
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who realy pulls "chicks" with their cars anyways"
Most of my "chick" friends prefer a nice looking guy in a hunky pickup... me, I always suspect that guys who drive vettes & the like are either rich older fartz going through a second adolescence, or sleazy greaseballs (who call women chicks) with a love affair with their mirrors.
Hey, and if the hunky pickup has a lab or golden retreiver in the passenger seat, all the better!
97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black.
Quick D Intake.
Awaiting Installation: JBA headers, V8 R/T TB,
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
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alex
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
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Personally, I prefer WOMEN that drive trucks as well. It sets them apart from the "Daddy-bought-me-a-Prelude" crowd. Then there's the crowd of women that drive Trans Ams and Camaros..... don't get me started.....
(Seriously) I'm Not really trying to flame, here..... I justlove my truck.
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chuck
Dodge Dakota
11/02/2001
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Give me a blank slate and the cash it would take to buy a Lightning (what do those cost? $32K? $38k?) and I could build a Dakota that would stomp the Lightning and stay even with the T/A and the SS Camaro.
As far as wasting my money, I've already saved the entire cost of a Sports Car by simply not buying one!! Heh.
I like Alex's approach. I'll see all you Dakota kids at Alex's keg party!
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Lesley
GenIII
11/02/2001
13:47:25
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Hey, there's another affirmation that the dak was the right choice for me.... I like the attitudes of other dak owners! :)
97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black.
Quick D Intake.
Awaiting Installation: JBA headers, V8 R/T TB,
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
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kota on 20s
GenIII
11/02/2001
16:53:14
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alex, you are math is a little off. yes $4500 in drivetrain and $4500 in suspencion mods =9k but, tax here in Los Angles is 8% that is = to 9,720 and unless you have the cash up front you will have to finance that $9,720. over time that will be more like $15,000-20,000 all to equal the performance of a sports/muscle car. NICE ENVESTMENT!
Eric
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