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JimS
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11/28/2007
15:37:50
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All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of transmission fluid that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position.
Amsoil meets and exceeds D/C specs.
Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what transmission fluid you are using. How do I know? I am a former Ford mechanic. I have been using Amsoil universal transmission fluid for many years, in many different vehicles. No problems. I too was sceptical in the beginning. But now I am a believer. I like the fact that I only need one case of atf in my small garage.
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ENOUGH
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11/28/2007
17:14:08
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why is it every dam time we get someone on here praising F*CKING amsoil its allways the same
a name we've never seen before
and not registered
just F*CK off! we know its you stan/shatto
thats the 2nd post on this board with trans issues using amsoil
you really think we're going to believe you over them?
i mean hell like you've been proven such an honest guy!
NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
plain and simple F*CK OFF
get a life
and a real job you LOSER!
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jim says Duh
Dodge Dakota
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11/28/2007
17:53:43
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JimS ya right!
not only are you completely full of sh!t
you missed the post entirely!
ew thats right thats part of the whole scamsoil thing! lie, mislead, mis-represent, etc. etc. etc.
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N56629
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11/28/2007
20:09:32
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"By that logic, man never has and never will make anything. Because molecules and base elements already exist."
I think you got it, Bob. They ruled that man did indeed make a synthetic lubricant using crude oil as one of the ingredients. The molecular structure bears a closer resembelence to PAO than crude oil. Todays "semi-"synthetics are every bit as good as any synthethic on the market. That is of course unless you have a habit of putting a handful of ball bearings in your crankcase. If you do then stick with Amsoil as it will help protect those bearings.
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hmmmm
Dodge Dakota
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11/28/2007
21:04:48
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LMFAO
ok but N56629
will it protect the muffler bearings ?
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Marty Mcfly
Dodge Dakota
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11/28/2007
21:06:11
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how about the flux capacitor?
will it protect it ???
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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11/28/2007
21:28:01
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DSW, Steve, the Amsoil Guy, says your claim of denied warranty is bogus unless you can prove it. It would be nice if you could provide some more info, claim number or whatever you might have. It would be nice to make him squirm a bit.
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N56629
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11/28/2007
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Yes, I belive Amsoil will cover muffler bearings if it is proven that the damage was caused by the use of any Amsoil product.
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Der Parson
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11/28/2007
21:55:39
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Our brother in Christ said it right.
Brother Jim said:
"All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of transmission fluid that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position.
Amsoil meets and exceeds D/C specs.
Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what transmission fluid you are using. How do I know? I am a former Ford mechanic. I have been using Amsoil universal transmission fluid for many years, in many different vehicles. No problems. I too was sceptical in the beginning. But now I am a believer. I like the fact that I only need one case of atf in my small garage."
Glory to God. We have all seen the light.
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sure
Dodge Dakota
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11/28/2007
22:12:36
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but when dodge tells you oil changes at 7500
and scamsoil tells you 25000
when something goes wrong you think dodge is fixing it?
you'll be sent to scamsoil
and you think their going to fix it????
LOL
right!
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DSW
Dodge Dakota
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11/29/2007
00:53:39
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N56629,
Amsoil TSR# 25348
Amsoil Universal ATF purchased 3-11-2005, invoice # 1157708
2003 Dakota 545RFE transmission failure 12-28-2006
48,884 miles on Amsoil's mile Universal ATF
89,118 total miles on transmission
Blackstone's Labratories commented (and this is word for word off their analysis report): "No moisture was found but insolubles were at limits. This shows the ATF was oxidized from heat and use and may indicate the oil was overrun."
Bogus claim???
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dak04
Dodge Dakota
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11/29/2007
07:49:39
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i have never used amsoil, never will, anyone that will let there truck go 25,000 miles before an oil change is a jackazz. ill stick with the royal purple that i put in my tuck since day one.
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dak05
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11/29/2007
10:30:43
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You might want to rethink that.
RP has moly which is like graphite.
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.boB
Dodge Dakota
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11/29/2007
11:39:12
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>> They ruled.... <<
Who are "They"? Tjey are lawyers and marketing types. People who want your money. They have no real interest in the product of it's effectiveness or capabilities. They just want your money.
Now, if you're willing to follow them, you go right ahead. Nobody here will stop you. Personally, I prefer to think for myself and follow my own path. But, feel free to do whatever makes you happy. If you're willing to pay PAO prices for Group III oil, be my guest and more power to ya.
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ya well
Dodge Dakota
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11/29/2007
23:49:48
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and scamsoil has zinc
Great stuff for coating nails,screws and boat trailers.
Not so good coating cat-cons and O2 sensors,
scamsoil is responsible for many early failures of both.
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Jim
Dodge Dakota
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11/30/2007
05:37:27
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Ignore the Amsoil Hater. his name is Cory.
Cory (Eye_Trip) from Washington is Jealous of Amsoil.
He is the A$$HOLE posting all the Royal Purple posts.
He is the A$$HOLE posting all the API posts.
He is the A$$HOLE posting and talking to Stan/Shatto.
HE hasn't realized yet he is just talking to himself. Ha Ha Ha!!!
Cory from Washington is the A$$HOLE !!!!
He was an aircraft technician from Washington.
He forgot to use an alias and used his old member name (Eye_Trip) twice.
I always knew it was Eye-Trip flaming the Amsoil guy.
Eye_Trip used to be a member until his registration
was cancelled for flaming a site sponsor (Amsoil).
Eye-Trip's profile on this site.
http://www.dodgedakota.net/cgi-bin/amb/lookup.pl?user=eyetrip
Notice Eye-Trip's last post was 6/04/2004 14:05:17?
That is the day he was banned from posting
using his registered name.
Cory (Eye_Trip) needs mental counseling.
His jealousy of Amsoil has driven him insane!
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U R a idiot
Dodge Dakota
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11/30/2007
14:44:02
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" Beware of the blank spot for the %zinc on Amsoil.
The facts are as follows:
1. Amsoil products, other than the XL-7500 line, cannot
be API certified because the level of ZDDP exceeds
the API limits which results in too much phosphorus.
This is not in dispute, Amsoil stated this. See:
"groups.google.com/groups?q=zdp+amsoil&hl=en&safe=off&rnum=1&ic=1&selm=3B02A3A8.185B25C7%40pinn.net"
2. The API limit on the amount of ZDDP was put in place
because the phosphorus in the ZDDP shortens the life
of the catalytic converter; the more ZDDP the shorter
the life of the catalytic converter.
"http://www.oldengine.org/unfaq/additive.htm"
"http://www.mixoil.com/ge_info.htm" scroll down to "Antiwear-EP "
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oilie
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11/30/2007
22:21:17
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i told you more than one time.
that is old news from 2002.
Amsoil, RP and Redline reduced the amount
of ZDDP after studies showed that excess
ZDDP could damage catalitic converters.
That is why RP switched to MOLY which is
WORSE for the engine but safer for the cat.
The REAL flaw was the material in the cats
and not necessarily the levels of ZDDP.
the dangerous oil for your engine is RP with moly graphite.
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N56629
Dodge Dakota
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11/30/2007
22:53:38
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"If you're willing to pay PAO prices for Group III oil, be my guest and more power to ya."
I don't and neither should you. PAO prices are often twice that of Grade III and there is virtually no difference in their performance. You can also find it right down the street any day you want to do an oil change. You don't have to pay some guy to buy it at fake wholesale prices.
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Stan
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12/01/2007
09:10:01
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N56629.
i am not certain what you said, but if i read it right
i believe that everything you said can be proven wrong.
PAO oils are proven to be better than non PAO oils.
PAO prices are not 2x the price of "quality" group 3 oils.
if you were right why would so many cars come
with synthetic PAO oil factory fill???
that's my correction to your post.
explain this:
if PAO oils are not better than non PAO oils,
then why all the debate about Mobil1 now not
being a PAO oil and switching their formula
to a group 3 oil and not lowering their retail
prices thereby screwing the customers.
huh????
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