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shane
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2/24/2001
13:22:09
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I have a 95 dakota 4x4 with a 3.9.. i am always getting stuck and it seems like one tire on each side turns only.. and its always the wrong side. why dont they all turn? can this be fixed with a rear end? if so what kind? and what about the front? how do i "lock" it up also? what are some good brands and part numbers. please help.
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matt
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2/24/2001
17:42:56
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You have open diffs front and rear. To fix this yu can either put lockers in it or limeted slip diffs. My thought would be limited slip from alburn they are a good unit real strong. I had them in a 84 ramcharger worked great.
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Nick
DakotaEnthusiast
2/25/2001
00:34:23
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A warn 9000i wench will help as well.
1997 Dodge Dakota Sport 5.2-V-8
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Russ
GenIII
2/25/2001
08:43:01
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Shane I have had Ford Chev and Dodge 4x4s and believe me Dakotas are just as strong as the rest.A limited slip diff will make a big difference but you will still get stuck if you try hard enough.Nick whats the WENCH for to get out and push when you are stuck???
2000 CC SLT 4X4 4.7 L-SLIP AUTO 3.55
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Nick
DakotaEnthusiast
2/25/2001
23:20:01
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basically.
1997 Dodge Dakota Sport 5.2-V-8
Duel Exhaust, Growler Mufflers
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collin
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2/26/2001
15:35:54
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you obviously dont know how to froad, so go buy a ricer
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shane
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2/26/2001
16:55:32
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Thanks, i checked and my truck has a 8.25" rear end and powertrax makes a lock right for it for 260$-350$..those are the prices i found so far....
where is the cheapest place out there?
thanks
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matt
Mechanic
2/27/2001
09:10:10
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Try rieder racing. If you go with a locker be prepared for the poping and clicking you will get going around corners. With a limited slip you will not get this noise. Auburn makes a limited slip for that it is a cone style which is really strong.
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bigred
Mechanic
2/27/2001
13:13:45
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u don't deserve a truck if u know that little about it
i keep gettin older and the girls stay the same age
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bigred
Mechanic
2/27/2001
13:14:31
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u don't deserve a truck if u know that little about it
i keep gettin older and the girls stay the same age
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Geoff
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2/27/2001
15:46:59
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Shane try taking a different route up your hill. You need to know the limitaions of your truck. It is very important to pick your line carfully. Even more important if you have a truck with open diffs and limited ground clearance. I had an 88 dakota and I was able to go most places without a lift and with open diffs.
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jeremy
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3/02/2001
19:36:58
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shane,
I have a 92 dakota 4X4, and I ran into the same problems. So I lifted it, and put 33" tires under it. made around 250-270 hp out of my 3.9, and put a powertrax no-slip locker in the rear. Beware, if you make these modifications, or similar ones to your truck the chrysler 7.25 front end is too weak, it will break. Also they don't make anything for the front, other than open diff. So if you want a locker up front you will need to do an axle swap. Your truck is three years newer than mine, yet still very similar. I'm in the middle of researching an axle swap, so if you are determined to have all four tires spin, Then E-mail me and I'll let you know how my swap comes out. also if you make the swap the lift kits become cheaper.
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don bacon
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3/14/2001
16:07:22
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I put a locker in the rear end of my '94 dakota v8 and I have loved it. It is a cheap no name brand but still have had no problems with it. it cost me $160, and it's worth it. I also have 31X10.50 bfg all-terains. I would not get rid of this truck for any thing.
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andrew
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3/14/2001
21:40:01
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hey don bacon, tell me, with those 31x10.50 bfg all-terains are you running stock wheels and do you have a lift. if so, what size on both (wheels and lift)?
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Brian Shedden
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4/02/2001
18:47:41
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Well my friend first thing I would do is ditch the V6 it is a piece. Next go by a new or used dakota 4X4 with the 318 or 4.7(2000&2001). I have a 2000 dakota with the 4.7 and I have only been stuck once. When it got burried to the frame front and rear in the middle of a swampy marsh. By the way it is totaly stock except flowmasters dualed.
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Brian Shedden
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4/02/2001
18:48:49
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Well my friend first thing I would do is ditch the V6 it is a piece. Next go by a new or used dakota 4X4 with the 318 or 4.7(2000&2001). I have a 2000 dakota with the 4.7 and I have only been stuck once. When it got burried to the frame front and rear in the middle of a swampy marsh. By the way it is totaly stock except flowmasters dualed.
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Tom Chaney
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4/02/2001
20:15:54
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My V6 runs great with 96xxx on it, rear locker makes it unstoppable, really wish i had a front locker..
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don bacon
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4/09/2001
20:13:26
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I have stock rims and no lift and the 31X10.50 fit perfect. At full flex the tires barely touch the fender wells. All I did was tighten my torsion bars and had the truck re-allinged.
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walt_felix
GenI
5/02/2001
11:08:28
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Brian,
Having a V8 doesn’t make much difference in off-road ability. Some of the most capable 4x4’s had only 4 and 6 cylinder engines (ie. Willys and CJ Jeeps). Sometimes having a bigger engine is more of a disadvantage because of the additional weight and it’s easier to loose traction by overpowering the wheels. The trick to off-roading is gearing and traction. A school bus can climb a steep hill with enough distance and momentum behind it. I’m more impressed with someone who can start and the base and crawl up it at a half a mile an hour. That’s the true off-roader. The V6 Dakota has an excellent power to weight ratio and is quite capable off-road in a stock configuration. It sounds like Shane’s problem is inexperience combined with low traction. What is he running for tires? A limited slip or locker will help him greatly. Gearing would be another improvement.
My V6 Dakota has 4.10 gears, a Detroit Locker, a re-geared 4:1 low range and aggressive tires mounted on bead lock rims. I have wheeled with guys in V8 Dodges, Fords and Chevys and have run circles around most of them. They may be able to beat me in a drag race, but off-road they can’t touch me.
PS. I still drive my Dakota Daily. 110 Miles round trip to and from work each day (half are back roads). I was concerned at first I might have trouble with the locker while driving on paved roads, but now that I have driven on it for a while, I don’t even notice it. I do notice the gears however. Gas mileage is slightly over 10mpg and top speed is around 75mph but I can live with it.
Walt Felix
88½ Dakota Sport 4x4
http://WWW.Walt-n-Ingrid.COM
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Hawkeye
DakotaEnthusiast
5/02/2001
11:59:13
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I agree with walt. Off roading has as much, if not more, to do with the driver as it does the truck. I know a guy with a 2wd truck that can outdrive many a 4x4 off road. As for you guys who want to say Shane doesn't deserve a truck because he doesn't know anything about it, were you all born with instant knowledge of trucks and off-roading or did you have to learn at some point and time?
2000 QC Sport 4x4 4.7 Beast
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95DakotaV8
*GenII*
5/06/2001
20:20:04
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Walt is correct. A V6 is fine for off-roading. With 4Lo, they are probably better b/c the V8 has more power and can break things easier. My Dakota is just as good (minus obvious drawbacks like length and overhang) as the following 4x4 trucks I have owned:
'73 Ford Bronco bored .030
'79 Bronco with 400 V8
'85 S-10 Blazer (i kinda liked it)
'91 Toyota pick up 4x4
'92 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer
'94 Chebby Z-71 K1500 w/350
Kevin Rants
95 CC SLT 4x4, 5.2L, 5spd
Family Man!
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V8Dakota
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5/09/2001
22:37:04
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I have to say that I disagree with Walt. A V8 does make a very big difference when driving off road. I have a '00 Dakota with a 318 and I take it through some rought stuff. I've wheeled with guys that drive Jeeps, Z-71s, other Dodges and Fords. Most of the Jeeps have been 4 bangers and when they have to put the pedal to the floor to get through a hole I can go right behind them just idleing. I've also owned a Dodge 1500 with a 360 and I most definately like my Dakota much more. Walt bring your Dakota to Texas and we'll see what it is really made of. Just because a truck has a V8 doesn't mean it will break things easier. A smaller motor has more strain put on it than a larger one does, so why so a V8 is more likely to break something.
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aaron
Dodge Dakota
6/25/2001
18:33:40
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can any body help me find a lift kit for a 2001 dodge ram off road?
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tim
Dodge Dakota
7/31/2001
20:54:30
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you wus, why didn't you buy a ram? those dakotas are for girls. find yourself a 2001 1500, sport, off road. Your problems will be solved:-) trust me.
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Patrick ODay
Gen III
8/01/2001
01:56:09
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Dakota Front Axle 1997 - 2000, DANA Model 35, 27 Spline,10 bolt cover. POWERTRAX No-Slip Traction System part number 92-0435-2701
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Hawkeye
Gen III
8/01/2001
07:05:02
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Pat, that should be 97-99. In 2000 Dodge changed from the Dana 35 to a 8 inch Chrysler front axle.
'00 QC 4x4
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32x11.50 BFG AT's
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andrew
Dodge Dakota
8/01/2001
10:46:31
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What front axle came on the 93 4x4?
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Mar
Dodge Dakota
8/08/2001
21:34:49
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I belive that a v8 is better for off roading because you can crawl better. Plus if your driving a standered its easier to keep momentom going.
Marty. But the 6 and 4 cylinders are also good.
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Hawkeye
Gen III
8/08/2001
21:44:24
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Actually Mar an auto is a little better cause you can keep power going without risking burning up a clutch like on a stick, also the torque converter will give you a little more rear wheel torque where as a stick will give you a bit more rear wheel HP. Not saying a stick isnt good off road at all. They are very good. Same reasons why a stick is faster racing and an auto is a better puller. But yeah, I agree, V6's are fine for off-roading, but I realllllly like a V8.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
32x11.50 BFG AT's
Green Thunder
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TigerDak
Dodge Dakota
8/09/2001
00:54:35
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Hawkeye, before I disagree with you on your last posting too much, please explain what type of racing you are referring to when you say racing is better with a stick rather than an auto.
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Hawkeye
Gen III
8/09/2001
07:09:08
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I didnt mean an auto wasnt good for racing, just that a stick tends to perform a little better. Personally, I will take an auto any day of the week for whatever use.
'00 QC 4x4
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32x11.50 BFG AT's
Green Thunder
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
8/09/2001
10:41:09
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I will have to disagree about a auto being better. One the auto weighs more. 2 a stick lets you manage your rpms. I wheel all the time and in some hary places. I do not burn up the clutch. Do I lug it out yes. I perfur a stick. Also I do not like autos for towing. Why did the big rigs use them for so long. Cuz you can manage your rpms better while towing on hills. If the road is flat great. But here in Utah the roads are not flat. Also while carring a big load, The trany can help slow you down. When we get a load of wood in the spring for winter. We load a 4 horse trailer full with some in the bed. (I am not doing this with my little truck) We go down a canyon called Mayfeild canyon. Steep and switch backs. We put it in 4low and first. I would rather have a stick to hold me back then a auto. I think autos are great but I don't think they are a better performer. Better gas mileage, better to tow with, and my opionion better to wheel with. Personally I think a stick is better. Altho you can't beat a auto around town that is for sure. I just never drive in town.
my 2 cents.
Jay
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
8/09/2001
10:42:05
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Here is some pics of me playing.
http://photos.yahoo.com/ciscoookid
Jay
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Hawkeye
Gen III
8/09/2001
18:11:26
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Before I say any more, No flame wars here. Just a friendly discussion on differing opinions.
The reason big trucks use sticks is because they need a bunch of gears in order to manage the weight they are pulling. As for pickups, I have watched some trucks hook up to each other before and the auto won every time beacause it could keep a constant pressure on the line, the stick would start spinning its tires. Same when they were pulling dead weight, the auto made more torque at the rear wheels because of the torque converter. The stick does have better compression breaking. I wasnt meaning that autos are better performers overall, just that there are some areas that the auto has the edge, and some where the stick does.
Great Moab pics. I would love to go out there on a trip.
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
32x11.50 BFG AT's
Green Thunder
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jimmeyjack
Dodge Dakota
8/09/2001
23:54:02
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More friendly disscusion, autos produce alot of heat. also, blow a tranny line your stuck. I have seen many sticks burn the clutch and keep going. I have never seen an auto make it home that went up in smoke. Granted you can spend a couple grand and get an auto to take more abuse but never what you can put a stick through.
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y22man
Dodge Dakota
8/10/2001
13:31:50
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Hawkeye, No flame intaneded. Sorry if it came accross that way.
Jay
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Hawkeye
Gen III
8/10/2001
18:18:04
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Jay, It didnt. I knew what you were saying. I just didnt want to sound like I was. It is so nice to finally be able to discuss things here and for us to have differing thoughts and opinions and not be a slam contest.
Again, love those pics. I really need to get some up of us flat landers wheelin!
'00 QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
32x11.50 BFG AT's
Green Thunder
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andrew
Dodge Dakota
8/10/2001
21:14:20
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I got stuck once. I also drive an auto. When I had the motor/tranny under load trying to get unstuck I smelled something awful buring. Couldnt figure it out; oil pressure seemed fine, temp gauge reading normal,oooops! forgot to take the emergency brake off before I started spinning my tires. Just had to share that with you guys.
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pilot
Dodge Dakota
8/10/2001
21:18:39
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Done a fair bit of 4 wheeling in the mountains of California (Sierra-Nevadas). After many years, I've concluded an automatic generally outperforms stick shift. Tough to admit, but true.
PS - check out those guys running the Baja 1000. Most of them run beefed up automatics.
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TigerDak
Dodge Dakota
8/11/2001
01:11:39
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We all agree that offroading is fun activity, and I believe that sticks have their places just like autos have their places. I cant say for sure what type of offroading should have what type of tranny control, but I doubt an end to this discussion is in sight because we all recognize the pros and cons of each type.
Look at motorcycles for example, they use sticks. Baja trucks use both, but mostly autos. rockcrawlers seem to prefer sticks. On my trail rides in Utah, Idaho, etc., I prefer an auto. We all have our preferences and there is NO SUCH THING as "right" or "wrong" in this. Its just preferences and differences.
This website would be boring if we all agreed on the same things all the time! Thus, we share experiences and preferences. That is why we come here - to learn from each other. I emphasize the word SHARE, not push or force.
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TigerDak
Dodge Dakota
8/11/2001
01:21:16
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Holy crap Jay! That shot of the Lion's Back freaked me out when I saw it. I doubt I would take My Baby down that steep hill from H E L L.
I havent spent that much time in S. Utah, but I hear its pretty good. What tires do you have on there? They look stock. In fact, your truck looks stock.
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