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Ky_man
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11/06/2006
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Okay, i've been using pennzoil 10w-30 in my '97 5.2 dakota. I
would like to try some synthetic or synthetic blend this time
around. Any good suggestions? I'm also on a budget. Keep it
between the $20-$30 range! lol.



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11/06/2006
01:29:27

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ive read that a lot of guys like mobile one synthetic...dont know the price of that but would imagine that it is around $5 a quart. I use Q synthetic torque blend(about $5/quart) and dont really know why, next time im going to try Mobile one



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11/06/2006
15:24:03

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There's only a few true synthetic oils available: Mobile 1, Royal Purple, Redline, and Amsoil. The rest are a synthetic/dino blend.

I use Mobile 1 in all my vehicles. It's reasonably priced, and easy to get. WalMart usually sells it in gallon jugs for less than $20.



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11/06/2006
17:52:15

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Mobil 1 comes in 5 Qt. jugs

So many problems .... So little time



Ky_man
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11/06/2006
19:37:39

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Good, cause my truck needs about 5.



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11/07/2006
06:36:24

RE: Oil Time! = Amsoil at wholesale / dealer cost
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Please consider Amsoil, because ...

I am offering FREE Amsoil Preferred Customer Memberships (like joining a CostCo). As an Amsoil Preferred Customer you get to purchase all AMSOIL products at wholesale / dealer cost.

It is a GREAT DEAL: a FREE Amsoil Preferred Customer Membership.

Here is the Link For The Free Offer.

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Amsoil SAE 5w-30 or 10w-30 --- priced much lower than you probably think ...

Amsoil SYNTHETIC SAE 5w-30 is only $5.70 per quart

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$5.70 is the Amsoil Preferred Customer Price (wholesale), and since I am paying
for the Amsoil Preferred Customer Memberships - that is your actual cost.

Even cheaper by the case. The price drops to $5.40 per quart.

The same oil, Amsoil SAE 5w-30, is $7.25 Suggested Retail .

* (These prices are as of November 1, 2006 and are subject to change).

DON'T PAY RETAIL !

BUY YOUR AMSOIL PRODUCTS AT WHOLESALE PRICES / DEALER COST



Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com

AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils, Lubricants, Filtration, and Truck Care Products



Bob Lincoln
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11/07/2006
08:41:43

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Mobil One is $6.29 a qt in MA at this time. Ouch. So is Castrol Syntec (not fully synthetic).



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11/07/2006
12:26:09

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Your e-mail link doesn't seem to work. Plz email me about the deal.



Rustywrenches
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11/07/2006
17:33:03

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You can buy Mobil 1 at Costco - 6 quart case for $27.52. Works out to 4.58 per quart.



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11/07/2006
23:46:22

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Mobil may have pulled a Castrol swithching it`s formula to Group III;

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB1&Number=752599&page=0&fpart=1

German Castrol 0-30 is a true synthetic and a good oil.



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11/07/2006
23:50:18

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I meant to post this thread,the first one is good too;

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=749606&an=0&page=2#Post749606



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11/08/2006
11:36:57

RE: Oil Time! Amsoil Genuine PAO Synthetic Oil
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Please consider AMSOIL and visit the following link
to my Amsoil Forum on another Dakota/Durango website:

AMSOIL = "Genuine Synthetic PAO Formulated" Motor Oils



Steven Roark , Amsoil Dealer , Proud Sponsor of www.DodgeDakotas.com

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shatto
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11/11/2006
14:24:28

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Ky_Man,
Think about the long term in your calculations, also.

I have always used Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, filtered with the Amsoil by-pass filter system. And the transmission has always used Amsoil ATF.
My 98 3.9 Dakota has 540,000 miles on the engine and transmission.



crapoil
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11/11/2006
19:30:28

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Check this out http://www.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/02/10/021472U.pdf

"synthetic oil caused property damage to the gear boxes"
"the two parties settled: amsoil agreed to pay Allen 1.5 Million"

geee... some great oil there ....



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11/11/2006
19:50:33

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Oh ... BTW did you all know that they buy their base oil from Mobil Chemical Co. --- Chevron and Petro-Canada ? they DO NOT make their own base oil. They also buy their additives from Lubrizol and Ethyl Corporation. They buy esters and Grp-3 base stocks from more than one source. Donaldson makes their oil and air filters for heavy-duty trucks.
WIX makes them for light-duty trucks and personal trucks. seems to me that they don't make ANYTHING themselves ... they just mix ingredients from other companies.



shatto
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11/12/2006
13:28:15

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crapoil,

GOOGLE: Your search-http://www.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/02/10/021472U.pdf did not match any documents.

Leading us to wonder id your attack on Amsoil is reflected in your name; crap.




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11/12/2006
19:11:04

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the link worked for me .... its a law suite about amsoil and shatto ... are you saying he is wrong about where amsoil gets their materials?



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11/12/2006
20:54:08

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Is everything in your vehicle made by the manufacturer?
Does everything you eat and wear come from the United States?
What possible difference does it matter where the raw materials come from?




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11/13/2006
06:54:37

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Mr. Crapoil,

You are correct.

Amsoil is not an oil or natural gas drilling and exploration company. Amsoil does not own any oil or natural gas refineries.

Amsoil does blend their oils using the best base oils and additives available in the industry, to our very own specifications. We buy from many suppliers.

Amsoil offers AMSOIL AIR FILTERS manufactured by Donaldson, however we are the ONLY company (via an exclusive agreement) selling Donaldson Filters for the consumer market. Donaldson only manufactures for the heavy trucy industry. We carry WIX as well so that we offer filters for every application. Both are made to our specifications.

I make no apologies.

We use the best ingredients and sell the best filters.

The lawsuit mentioned earlier? - Amsoil agreed to pay for the damages. That makes us a GREAT company that stands behind our warranty. What was the problem? I don't know. However, Amsoil's insurance company refused to reimburse Amsoil for the claim and Amsoil took the Insurance Company to court. Normal business practice.

Anything else you would like to say?

Thank you,

Steven



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silly __
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11/13/2006
08:12:43

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crapoil .................. trix are for kids.

Royal Purple is a blender just like Amsoil. So are many others.

The same holds true in many industries including gasoline, ethanol, and biodiesel. Tire companies do not own rubber plantations. Most beer companies don't grow their own wheat and barley. Bottled water companies don't create rain. Etc. Dodge does not make their OEM oil or fluids either.

It is no big deal.



shatto
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11/14/2006
11:04:20

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Ky_man,
Ought to be obvious to you by now, you get to do more homework. I'll help;

Fact #1.
Any oil that meets specifications will do what the manufacturer wants it to do.

Fact #2.
Within the specifications there is a range of quality and capabilities.

Fact #3.
Any synthetic oil will outperform any conventional oil (yes, nitpickers, there are exceptions, but we don't change oil every 500 miles.)

Fact #4.
Amsoil, in labratoty testing (as opposed to informercials) is compared to and proved better than other oils, synthetic and non-synthetic, in most all cases.

Fact #5.
Click on Steve Roarks link, or GOOGLE the Amsoil Corporate site and see the technical and comparisons for yourself.

Fact #6.
In spite of what our doubting friends say, any company has to be able to back up their advertising claims. I believe you'll discover that is the law.

Fact #7.
Amsoil has been a successful growing business for more than 30 years. You don't do that being a liar; in spite of what the anti-Capitalist, hate America crowd say.

Fact #8.
Today, everybody in the soap business offers 'concentrated' soaps and detergents that are biodegradable. Why? Amway introduced concentrated, biodegradable detergent 40 years ago. Everybody followed.

Today, everybody in the oil business offers synthetic and synthetic blend, motor oils. Why?
Amsoil introduced synthetic motor oil, for automobiles, over 30 years ago. Everybody is following.



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